The baby died four years ago; homebirth midwife Christy Collins hasn’t stopped lying since

Word Lies standing on table

Earlier this week I wrote about the new GateHouse Media expose of homebirth midwifery, Failure to Deliver. It features many tragic stories about preventable infant death including the tale of homebirth midwife Christy Collins. After repeatedly ignoring Danielle Yeager’s serious pregnancy complications — more than 2 weeks past her due date and no amniotic fluid:

Collins took the Doppler wand and placed it on Yeager’s belly, moving it around until they could hear the whoosh-whoosh-whoosh of the heart.

It sounded different this time. Slow. Dangerously slow. A number appeared on the monitor: 90 beats per minute. Not the normal, healthy fetal heart rate of 120-160 bpm.

“At that point, I said, ‘We need to go,’” Brooks [the baby’s father] recalled.

Although they were in a clinic connected to Spring Valley Hospital near the heart of Las Vegas, Collins instructed them to meet her at Centennial Hills Hospital, more than 16 miles north. It’s about a half-hour trek.

By the time Yeager arrived at the other hospital, it was too late. Despite an emergency C-section and extensive neonatal resuscitation efforts, baby Gavin Michael was dead.

[pullquote align=”right” cite=”” link=”” color=”” class=”” size=””]Even among homebirth midwives who routinely lie about their role in preventable deaths, Christy Collins stands out.[/pullquote]

There are two things that make the story of Christy Collins particularly damning: 1. She had been prohibited from practicing midwifery in California so she simply moved to another state. 2. Nearly every claim she made to Gatehouse Media was shown — through texts, recollections of the parents, and recollections of the medical professionals — to be a lie.

Now her husband Chuck is publicly lying on her behalf.

I remember the anguish, the confusion as to why her client, someone that Christy had grown close to, had refused to be seen by specialists after an abdominal assault incident. Or the car accident, or bleeding that followed. It was obvious that the client did not trust the medical community, but Christy did, and gave every chance short of force to make that happen. Multiple ultrasounds, a cancelled perinatologist appointment by the client who accused my wife of trying to subject her to ‘the dead baby flag,’ refusals of hospital induction, refusal to stay at the hospital, and blaming my wife’s urgency for putting stress and pressure on her, as she believed it was preventing her from going into labor. Many other parts of her care were above and beyond a typical client of Christy’s, not just because it was needed, but because the client declined a higher level of monitoring. There were no statutes in that state protecting a midwife from abandonment charges after 36 weeks if the care of a noncompliant client was dropped or transferred. I remember Christy staying in the hospital room after the passing for many many hours, making sure those parents knew their son, helping them cope in the days that followed. In the week that followed (something else missing in your reporting), the client had told my wife that the reason she kept saying she wanted more time was because she KNEW. She knew something was wrong and she wanted more time with her baby while he was still alive. It seems nearly impossible that ANY mother wouldn’t immediately jump into action if their midwife told them that their baby needed to come out. It doesn’t make sense. When the client’s mother found out about California in the weeks that followed, she even went as far to try and have Christy arraigned again for practicing in Nevada. Christy again, had to appear in court only to be told by the judge what she had already been legally advised, that her practice in Nevada was NOT in violation of any part of her legal issue in California.

I suppose if you are committed to lying, it hardly makes sense to worry about how monstrous the lies are, but it does make sense to worry about the existence of documentary evidence proving that it is a monstrous lie. And I have that documentary evidence. I was the one who originally reported the tragedy of Gavin Michael’s preventable death and identified Christy Collins as the midwife responsible.

It wasn’t that hard after Collins crowd sourced Yeager’s complications on Facebook, asking Jan Tritten, the editor of Midwifery Today to solicit advice from other homebirth midwives:


…[W]hat do we truly feel are the risks compared to a woman whose water has been broken and so baby/cord has no cushion there either. Cord compression only? True possibility of placenta being done although it looks good? Can anyone share stories/opinions? …

Do you see any evidence that Collins was trying to convince Yeager to go to the hospital immediately? Me, neither.

In the wake of Gavin Michael’s death, Collins immediately took to social media to share the midwife’s story without acknowledging that SHE was the midwife:



I asked Christy on her own Facebook page whether she was the primary midwife in the case. She lied:

No, I’m not, but enough details had been passed around to select midwives to realize it was not what got created on Jan’s page, and it was NOT Jan. Someone needed to say something …

I asked for the identity of the midwife and Christy lied again.

I’m sorry, you know I can’t do that. Coming to the defense of others is something I will do if I feel that their actions were defensible. With what I have heard, and with what others posted, they were. It was presented by the midwife poorly, but the actions taken up to that point and past appear to have been within OB protocol …

Chuck is now lying when he says that Christy repeatedly urged Danielle to go to the hospital. How do I know? Back in 2014 I quoted the text that Christy sent to Danielle on the day after the baby’s death. In it she acknowledges that she actually advised Danielle to ignore the perinatologist who warned that the baby might die.

I wish I could go back in time, and have said stronger words – enough to make you hate me, and fell you had no choice but to go into the hospital the day before. I could’ve lived with you hating me, over this feeling of devastation.

I know we say that we don’t know if it would’ve been any different; maybe he would’ve been very sick, but alive. I don’t know. But I wish I wouldn’t pushed much hard and said the things that we never want to hear the ‘experts’ say…

Instead of … telling you to “be prepared that the perinatologist doing the NST is likely to tell you that your baby could die if he doesn’t come out;” those should have been MY words. You might have been really pissed at me for pushing you into a corner where you felt you didn’t have a choice, but … I wouldn’t care… I am angry at myself for being the midwife who tried to be as firm but gentle as possible when advising to go in when I could’ve waved the dead baby flag…

I wanted so badly to see a change in fluid … while you just wanted time/space to think … If I hadn’t agreed, and used the words “your baby could die because of this …”, maybe he would still be here…

Back in 2014 Christy told Danielle that she blamed herself for the baby’s death:

I blame me. I would rather have you hate me for pushing you harder into a bad birth experience … so you could hold a live baby instead.

Midwifery implies choices. Informed consent. Informed refusal. No woman would refuse an induction if she knew what having a dead baby felt like. In the future, I’ll pressure until my client hates me. I won’t care.

She promised she would learn from her role in Gavin Michael’s preventable death, but, of course, she lied about that, too.

85 Responses to “The baby died four years ago; homebirth midwife Christy Collins hasn’t stopped lying since”

  1. Eater of Worlds
    December 7, 2018 at 5:39 pm #

    Can anyone help me find out what happened to a particular midwife in AZ? I knew her before she went super woo-y, I think she did so when she struggled to get pregnant, ended up adopting (and wasn’t nice in how she did it), then managed to get pregnant several times after that and attributed it all to the woo. She became a midwife and I’ve followed her on and off over the years. I checked recently and was surprised to see a lawsuit. She took care of a post 40 week woman and the law in AZ is midwives can only see women up to 40 weeks, nothing after that. I do not know what happened, if the woman had problems or if the baby did. I’m curious about that and the current state of her lawsuit. She was convicted in 2017? of the offense that happened in 2015 and has been appealing it as of this year. Anyone up to helping me figure out what was going on?

  2. rational thinker
    December 2, 2018 at 5:45 pm #

    Does anyone know why CC was banned from practice in California?

    • RudyTooty
      December 2, 2018 at 7:29 pm #

      “In 2011, Collins—then a student midwife in California—has been charged with a misdemeanor for practicing medicine without a license. The state medical board—the governing body that oversees both CNMs and CPMs in California—fined Collins $10,000 and banned her from practicing midwifery for three years. ”

      From a 2016 article in the Pacific Standard.

      • rational thinker
        December 3, 2018 at 7:36 am #

        thanks for the link

  3. rational thinker
    December 1, 2018 at 5:08 pm #

    I have an idea. When the next baby that dies of preventable meconium aspiration someone should get the midwife responsible shove feces up her nostrils and down her throat. Then look at her and yell “NOW BREATHE!”

    • Who?
      December 1, 2018 at 6:16 pm #

      Her own faeces, obviously-you’re not a monster!

    • rational thinker
      December 2, 2018 at 8:08 am #

      sorry everyone for this comment I was just mad a friend recently lost a baby to meconium aspiration. midwife assured her everything was fine and this lady has messed with her head so much that she wont even listen to anyone telling her the midwife was wrong

      • Amazed
        December 2, 2018 at 11:01 am #

        You’re sorry… why? I think it’s a wonderful idea.

        I’m so sorry about this baby.

        It might be too soon for your friend to hear reason. We’ve seen homebirth mothers see the light but it never happens in the immediate aftermath – save for the spectacular exception of Danielle Yeager but hers was a special case. Christy was dumb enough to leave evidence all over.

        It beggars belief that with the information everywhere – and yes, it is everywhere and has been so for a few years – women still want to only look at one side and lay themselves ready for the fuckery called homebirth midwifery.

        • rational thinker
          December 2, 2018 at 1:19 pm #

          It has been a few months and nobody has talked to her that much I think the midwife told her not to. At the funeral and viewing the midwife was by her side the whole time I think so no one could talk to her alone and she practically lived at their house the whole month after I think so she could do some deep brainwashing.

          • RudyTooty
            December 2, 2018 at 1:31 pm #

            This is so gross.
            So unethical.

          • rational thinker
            December 2, 2018 at 1:54 pm #

            I cant be angry with her she was brainwashed and she always was more on the gullible side. I just hope one day she will realize how wronged she was by this woman.

          • RudyTooty
            December 2, 2018 at 1:57 pm #

            I hope you know I was referring to the midwife’s behavior, not your friend’s.

          • rational thinker
            December 2, 2018 at 1:57 pm #

            yes I know

      • RudyTooty
        December 2, 2018 at 1:30 pm #

        I have a friend who lost a baby under a midwife’s care. A full term baby.

        It has been years, and she’s never really grappled with how she was deceived by the midwife into believing that she was safe and cared for. I would not have known that the care my friend received was negligent until after I had become a RN and worked in a high-risk OB/GYN clinic myself.

        It’s sickening how people who have been harmed the most by these practices can be the ones promoting it. She still advocates for OOH birth. She still believes it’s safe – despite the fact that one of her children DIED.

        She’s caught in the delusion. I don’t harbor any ill-will toward my friend. I care about her deeply. She is the one who suffered the most – she has a wound on her heart that will never, ever heal. I don’t know if she’ll ever see what happened to her.

        The midwifery relationship DOES mess with people’s heads. It’s cultish. It’s very creepy.

        • Amazed
          December 2, 2018 at 4:39 pm #

          But has she had another child since and if she has, was it another homebirth? Because my general impression is that while still talking the talk and presenting themselves as still fully supportive, many loss mothers quietly go and have their subsequent children in the hospital. IOW, they might not deny it all they want but they want safety – and they know where it can be found, no matter how much “It would have happened anywhere!”s they tell themselves and the world.

        • seenthelight
          December 2, 2018 at 10:45 pm #

          It messed with mine badly. Fortunately I found this place while pregnant with my second and went full hospital ❤️

      • mabelcruet
        December 2, 2018 at 5:00 pm #

        Why are you apologizing? My only issue with your comment was that solid faeces isn’t really an accurate substitute for meconium, its more like that horrible mucousy diarrhoea you get with food poisoning, thick, gloopy and sticky. The thought of drowning in that stuff is just frightening.

        • rational thinker
          December 2, 2018 at 5:48 pm #

          I just thought maybe I crossed the line with that one oh and you are absolutely right about the diarrhea lol

      • EmbraceYourInnerCrone
        December 3, 2018 at 4:41 pm #

        Don’t be sorry. Your feelings are perfectly valid. I am so sorry about your friend. It can happen to any one. My perfectly normal pregnancy and boring delivery turned terrifying in the last 45 min or less (of a just 6 1/2 hour labor). Late, decels, meconium, etc They called the NICU team the OB did a episiotomy and vaccum extraction and the NICU doc cleared her lungs and got her breathing. A couple of the quietest scariest moments of my life. My kid survived to grow up with all her brain cells because of EFM and an OB who knew what to do and when to do it, without hesitation AND because of a great team in the delivery room.

  4. Anna
    December 1, 2018 at 5:13 am #

    I have heard there is some manual for midwives in dealing with their fuck-ups and some private groups where they discuss ways to circumvent the laws and guidelines and how to cover their arses. It certainly seems that they all play from the same book. In one of the private HB loss groups I’m in all but ONE of us was blamed by their midwife – and thats me and thats only as far as I know. Who knows if somewhere out there there is a rumour that I refused transfer or didn’t listen to advice. It is the STANDARD response to claim the midwife informed the parent and she refused. Why on earth would someone pay a midwife thousands of dollars to ignore what they say? Christy is implying that Danielle knew Gavin was dying and didn’t act. What utter bullshit.

    • fiftyfifty1
      December 1, 2018 at 10:38 am #

      The manual you are thinking of is called “From Calling to Courtroom”

      • mabelcruet
        December 2, 2018 at 5:06 pm #

        Direct quote from that book: “Want another reason that a midwife needs a lawyer? Look at the previous section of this book, describing the legal system. Lawyers go to school for at least seven years, take a grueling bar exam (which not everybody passes), then go out into the “real world” to learn how to research, argue without ticking off a judge, and apply classroom knowledge to courtroom situations”

        So, its perfectly acceptable to pass yourself off as a midwife having gotten a high school diploma, watched a few deliveries and done a course in aromatherapy and ear candling, but when it comes to the law, only a highly educated professional will do. Double standards much?

        • Karen in SC
          December 4, 2018 at 8:46 am #

          yes that is infuriating!

    • RudyTooty
      December 2, 2018 at 2:00 pm #

      I’ve been thinking about how CPMs have written laws that give them the authority to practice midwifery – they’ve effectively regulated de-regulation. Or de-regulated regulation.

      The database from the Gatehouse media website shows how many states have permitted licensing of midwives AND allowed them to attend risky (VBAC, breech, twins) births.

      The assumption is that regulation promotes safer practice. With CPMs, licensing makes it less safe.

  5. Clarene Wong
    November 30, 2018 at 9:18 pm #

    No quote of Collins saying she “can’t forgive” Danielle for “ruining her career”? That was the worst part imo

    • Amazed
      December 1, 2018 at 12:37 pm #

      Poor she of the ruined career declared bankruptcy and moved to another state. Isn’t it obvious that she doesn’t have anything to feed her children with because of evil Danielle?

      Seriously, what kind of person can just pack off and move to another state? I can’t and I’m not exactly bankrupt. For this matter, what kind of mother changes her kids’ lives and forces them to start anew many times just to cover her own ass?

  6. rational thinker
    November 30, 2018 at 6:56 pm #

    can this asshole be prosecuted?

  7. Russell Jones
    November 30, 2018 at 6:49 pm #

    “Nobody has the full story”

    That’s nauseating reminiscent of Trump’s “How can anyone ever really know?” defense of the Saudi crown prince who had a reporter murdered in singularly ghastly fashion.

    But this is actually worse in certain respects. Presumably, Trump wasn’t actually in the room when the reporter was butchered alive or when his new best bud gave the order. Collins, by contrast, WAS both in the room and an active participant in this nightmare.

  8. November 30, 2018 at 5:22 pm #

    I find it disingenuous that Christy Collins’ husband’s statement makes it sound like the doctors at the hospital said that Gavin would have died of MAS even if he was born at the hospital.

    The more realistic understanding of the statement is that Gavin was already suffering from MAS at the time of the first BPP. (*No surprise there; that’s one of the reasons going to 42 weeks gestation is not recommended) MAS is a very serious and dangerous newborn disorder – but if Gavin had been delivered promptly with a NICU team present, he would have had a good chance at survival after a rough start.

    Plus, I need to point out the obvious here – would Ms. Yaeger have gone to 42 weeks gestation under the care of most CNMs or a OB/GYN instead of “babies know when to be born” Collins?

    You can’t create a medical emergency then claim that the medical emergency would have happened regardless of your involvement.

    • Amazed
      November 30, 2018 at 5:29 pm #

      Of course it’s disingenuous. An honest man wouldn’t have chosen someone like Christy Collins. He’s totally comfortable with wifey killing babies off. Do you think he would balk at lying to make her look better?

      • Anna
        December 1, 2018 at 1:56 am #

        If its even him. Some speculation has been around whether its just Christy herself. It doesnt read like a male to me.

        • December 1, 2018 at 12:08 pm #

          Actually I also suspected this. The rent is very, very similar to her protestations that the midwife was ON TOP OF THE SITUATION.

      • Merrie
        December 1, 2018 at 8:51 pm #

        If it is actually him, he probably has no idea what really goes on in his wife’s job and just believes what she tells him about how it really is. He certainly has an incentive to be in denial about it. And the denial is deep with a lot of HB advocates.

    • demodocus
      November 30, 2018 at 11:30 pm #

      I wonder if part of it is the wibbly-wobbly-ness of “40 weeks is basically 10 months” stuff all about now. (Really it’s 9 months and 1 week, if you’re going by the solar calendar) If you’re already 10 (lunar) months along, and everyone was wrong about their counting before, then what’s the big deal about 42 weeks?

      • Eater of Worlds
        December 7, 2018 at 6:02 pm #

        The midwife I’m looking for info for on her lawsuit got in trouble for just that, practicing midwifery after 40 weeks. She said in her defense “there is more than one way to measure someone at full term” and not only using the last menstrual period measurement. She lost and she’s now appealing but I don’t know what actually happened to the woman she was treating.

  9. RudyTooty
    November 30, 2018 at 3:17 pm #

    Ok – I’ve brushed up on this story, again.

    I have a question:

    Has SonoCare been held accountable at all? I’m looking at the US report from 2/19/14 (provided through the Gatehouse Media link). They have no protocol for what to do after assessing 0 amniotic fluid during a BPP?

    They just turn that report over to an unlicensed yahoo like Christy Collins?
    WTF is that?

    So many loopholes allowed this to unfold the way it did.

    • fiftyfifty1
      November 30, 2018 at 3:28 pm #

      I wonder who even ordered the study? Not just any yahoo should be able to order a test.

      • RudyTooty
        November 30, 2018 at 3:36 pm #

        It’s super bizarre. Everyone else needs a license of some sort to order tests – except lay midwives. They just write their own magical fairy tale rules, and others abide by them?

    • rational thinker
      December 1, 2018 at 7:51 am #

      Yeah that’s my question too. Wouldn’t they have told mom directly that you need a C-section now.

      • Azuran
        December 1, 2018 at 10:13 am #

        I dont think they have the right to. From what i understand, most people who do the pregnancy US are not doctors, they are mostly technicians who are formed to get the proper images so the doctors can then analyse them.
        As none doctor (and probably also hospital policies) they dont have the right to discuss any finding with the parents because 1: posing a diagnostic is a medical act reserved to doctors, so its practicing medicine without a liscence. They could be sued for that. And if whatever the US tech tells the parent turns out not to be true (either they dont see something or see someting that turns oit to be nothing) they could cause undue stress and pain to the parents. Which could also eventually cause legal trouble.

        Usually, its not a problem. Any tech certainly would have known this was serious and immediately notified the doctor in charge, who would have called for a c-section right away, probably before the mother ever left the hospital. Sadly, in this case, the person is charge was an incompetent twat. Its baffling that she had the right to order such a test. If she used a midwife friendly doctor to order the test, then that doctor could be held responsible if he either didnt review the result or let collins give the results to the mother herseld.

        • RudyTooty
          December 2, 2018 at 2:04 pm #

          “Its baffling that she had the right to order such a test.”

          So who *can’t* order an US in the state of Nevada?

  10. MaineJen
    November 30, 2018 at 2:41 pm #

    One of the most galling parts of this thing is that CC went online and *completely disingenuously* pretended she was NOT the midwife who guided this disaster to its tragic conclusion. While behind the scenes, she had already begun rewriting history by claiming “the mother refused transfer.”

    Also galling is the thought that baby Gavin was *still alive* at the time of that third BPP, and if CC had simply swallowed her pride and allowed Danielle to be seen at the hospital where they already WERE, rather than having her drive 16 miles away, he may have survived.

    There are no words to express the anger and outrage.

  11. NoLongerCrunching
    November 30, 2018 at 1:42 pm #

    Christy Collins is a slimy, evil person who should be in jail.

  12. attitude devant
    November 30, 2018 at 1:39 pm #

    Danielle is such a kind sweet trusting person. Christy failed her in every way and the libeled and slandered her in every possible medium. It is REALLY NICE for her true story to be shared. Thank you so much.

  13. Anj Fabian
    November 30, 2018 at 12:56 pm #

    From my POV this is what happened:

    Collins sent her client in for a BPP.
    The result was not only not reassuring, standard of care would have been to admit immediately to deliver the baby.

    Collins sent her client home to drink water and wait.
    So much for standard of care.

    The second BPP was the same.
    Again, SoC is admit immediately.

    Collins sent her client home with instructions to try various DIY methods to start labor and wait some more. Her client passed on the methods which were all rubbish anyway.

    The third BPP was also bad and the FHR revealed serious fetal distress.
    Standard of care is stat delivery. Immediately. Now. Without delay.
    Collins had her client drive – not take an ambulance – drive to another hospital. They had been AT A HOSPITAL.

    All the while Collins was asking for advice online. She ignored the good advice, the sound advice, the life saving advice.

    Collins knew where she could find a midwife friendly doctor. She didn’t ask him for advice.

    • RudyTooty
      November 30, 2018 at 1:04 pm #

      Except there is no standard of care among midwives.

      What she did IS standard of care – for midwives like Collins.

      • Anj Fabian
        November 30, 2018 at 1:06 pm #

        If you want the baby to live, then it’s standard of care. If you don’t give a shit, yeah…waiting for something to happen is standard of care.

        • RudyTooty
          November 30, 2018 at 1:13 pm #

          They don’t give any shits.

          Are there any written standards of care for LMs/CPMs that say it’s a standard of care to transfer to the nearest medical facility?

          • December 2, 2018 at 3:03 pm #

            Required standard of care? No.

  14. KQ Not Signed In
    November 30, 2018 at 12:55 pm #

    Forgot to include the link on my initial post. I was too mad. Deconstructing Christy Collin’s hideous letter to Danielle where she causes me to get Gaslight Bingo.

    • RudyTooty
      November 30, 2018 at 1:36 pm #

      It’s a shame that deconstructing midwifery in the US takes this much analysis – but it does. And more. The deception and manipulation is multi-layered.

      It is sinister and evil.
      And I don’t believe in evil.

    • CodeWench
      November 30, 2018 at 6:29 pm #

      I’m glad you reposted this. This piece of writing has stayed with me all of the time and I immediately thought I should post the link if someone else hadn’t already. Thank you for writing it.

  15. sdsures
    November 30, 2018 at 12:51 pm #

    Next time I need major surgery, I will insist that my surgeon crowd-source Facebook for the most up-to-date tips and tricks for emergency medicine! #snark

    • fiftyfifty1
      November 30, 2018 at 12:55 pm #

      And then have the surgeon ignore any and all sensible advice given!

    • attitude devant
      November 30, 2018 at 1:25 pm #

      LOL! Yesterday the father of one of my mentally disabled clients offered to send me an article from the Wall Street Journal (!) about the origins of ovarian cancer.

      • fiftyfifty1
        November 30, 2018 at 3:32 pm #

        mansplaining at its finest

      • MaineJen
        November 30, 2018 at 3:48 pm #

        Uuuuuggggghhhhhh I can’t

  16. fiftyfifty1
    November 30, 2018 at 12:51 pm #

    Homebirth midwives always accept the glory, but always refuse to accept the blame. They manipulate women into staying home by telling them that everything that perinatologists and OBs warn are just lies –“the dead baby card.” If everything turns out well in the end, they crow “see I told you so.” But if a baby dies? They lie and claim they tried to warn you but you refused to listen. And there is no recourse for families. Homebirth midwives refuse to carry liability insurance (not that $ can ever compensate for the loss of a baby of course.)

  17. RudyTooty
    November 30, 2018 at 12:50 pm #

    Help me understand these details – because I have not heard them before. And I, too, watched this unfold on Jan Tritten’s FB page when it happened.

    Abdominal assault? Car accident?

    • sdsures
      November 30, 2018 at 12:52 pm #

      Criminal negligence?

    • fiftyfifty1
      November 30, 2018 at 12:54 pm #

      No, I think the main issue is just that the placenta totally crapped out from being so postdates. But if the mom HAD been encouraged to see the perinatologist after the accident, at least mother would have had a chance to hear the real risks of going so far postdates with no fluid.

      • RudyTooty
        November 30, 2018 at 12:56 pm #

        When was the car accident? At 42 weeks?
        If I need to brush up on details so I understand better, please point me in the right direction. I hadn’t heard about the car accident.

        • fiftyfifty1
          November 30, 2018 at 12:57 pm #

          I can’t remember when the car accident was. Anyone else who can help?

          • RudyTooty
            November 30, 2018 at 1:00 pm #

            Trying to understand WTF Chuck is talking about:

            “I remember the anguish, the confusion as to why her client, someone that
            Christy had grown close to, had refused to be seen by specialists after
            an abdominal assault incident. Or the car accident, or bleeding that
            followed. It was obvious that the client did not trust the medical
            community, but Christy did, and gave every chance short of force to make
            that happen.”

            I mean, I completely understand the objective – to blame the parents. I had not heard these details – and these details were absent in CC’s crowdsourcing request on Jan Tritten’s timeline.

          • CodeWench
            December 1, 2018 at 11:08 am #

            Why was she discussing a patient’s case with her husband? Does HIPAA not apply because she’s not really a medical professional?

          • RudyTooty
            December 2, 2018 at 2:06 pm #

            She is not bound by HIPAA. She’s not bound by any professional standards whatsoever. Nor any legal/licensure standards (not that they’d be better for a CPM).

            Also – there’s some question if that’s actually Chuck, or just Christy Collins posting as Chuck.

        • Anj Fabian
          November 30, 2018 at 1:12 pm #

          “Yeager wondered if a car accident she had at 36 weeks compromised the baby.”

          No bleeding was reported. Collins told her to relax, take a bath, see a chiro.

    • Griffin
      November 30, 2018 at 1:07 pm #

      From the gatehouse article:

      “‘Yeager wondered if a car accident she had at 36 weeks compromised the baby. Collins told GateHouse Media she advised Yeager to seek medical attention for her baby after the wreck, but her text messages D from the time say differently: “Babies are so well protected in there.” “Definitely need to see a chiro now.” “You deserve a long soak in the tub.”’

      • RudyTooty
        November 30, 2018 at 1:11 pm #

        OK – so the car accident at 36 weeks likely had nothing to do with the problems at 42 weeks. But Danielle should have been evaluated in a hospital after the accident – her midwife should have advised this – and didn’t.

        Collins had been negligent throughout Danielle’s pregnancy. I see, now. Thank you.

        • Griffin
          November 30, 2018 at 2:26 pm #

          Yeah. How she’s trying to cover her ass with all the lies makes me sick. She’s probably one of those people who has managed to believe her own twisted version of things, where SHE is the victim. Ugh!

          • RudyTooty
            November 30, 2018 at 2:51 pm #

            It’s very twisted. People like this should be preventing from working in healthcare in any capacity.

          • RudyTooty
            November 30, 2018 at 2:55 pm #

            Speaking of victimhood: It’s not all that uncommon for midwives to set up gofundme pages and meal trains ***FOR THEMSELVES*** when their negligence and incompetence results in the death of their client’s baby.

            Their deep-seated identities are as victims: “POOR US. OH! ALAS! IT’S SO HARD TO BE US. IT’S SO UNFAIR TO BE US. HELP US. WE ARE SO PERSECUTED.”

            Fuck these people. Have we said this lately? Fuck these people.

        • demodocus
          November 30, 2018 at 11:34 pm #

          I slipped and fell at 7 months along and got politely chewed out by my OB when I saw him first thing the next morning for not going to the hospital.

        • FormerPhysicist
          December 3, 2018 at 9:34 am #

          I had a minor car accident at 26 weeks and the EMT’s discussed whether I should be allowed to drive (my still drivable car) to the hospital or they should transport. They insisted on talking to my OB when I called her.

  18. Madtowngirl
    November 30, 2018 at 12:50 pm #

    Excuse me, but fuck these people.

    I found Yeager’s Facebook page yesterday and read her heartache and anguish that she still feels because of the loss of her child. Yeager has to live with that every single day, and Collins has basically gotten away with murder by skipping state lines. Crowdsourcing advice for someone who is 42 weeks and low fluid? I’m no medical professional, I’m a complete layperson, and even *I* know that is an emergency that should be dealt with in a hospital. Then making yourself the victim? She AND her husband are horrible people who deserve every bit of hate they get.

    • RudyTooty
      November 30, 2018 at 1:17 pm #

      Fuck these people.

      • fiftyfifty1
        November 30, 2018 at 3:36 pm #

        And these are the people that CNM leadership regards as your sisters in midwifery.

        • RudyTooty
          November 30, 2018 at 3:54 pm #

          Which of the current ACNM leaders are supporting lay midwives and CPMs?

          • fiftyfifty1
            November 30, 2018 at 9:38 pm #

            All of them. Not a one calls them out. Not a one is letting the public know.

  19. Anj Fabian
    November 30, 2018 at 12:48 pm #

    One lie that is obvious and incontrovertible is CC claiming
    “They were at a hospital with those 3 BPPs, so went promptly into an emergency c-section”

    They were at a hospital – that part is true.
    Collins had them drive ACROSS TOWN to another hospital because she knew that there was a home birth friendly doctor there. That part wasn’t for Gavin’s benefit. That was strictly for Collin’s benefit. When her client was in the middle of a life or death crisis, Collins still had the presence of mind to think of herself.

    There was no “went promptly into an emergency c-section”. It didn’t happen until they arrived at the second hospital.

    • RudyTooty
      November 30, 2018 at 12:54 pm #

      The reason why this is so believable is that the practice of midwives transporting their clients to a distant hospital in emergencies – because the doctors are ‘nicer’ there – is pretty much a hallmark of OOH midwifery.

      I don’t know a single home birth midwife that as a rule transfers to the nearest hospital. They are always trying to find the ‘nicest’ place – and by ‘nicest’ – that means most tolerant of midwives’ incompetence – not necessarily ‘nicest’ to the patient/client.

  20. KQ Not Signed In
    November 30, 2018 at 12:09 pm #

    Christy Collins is a lying, vindictive, manipulative, selfish baby killer. The horrific trauma she has caused – and continues to cause – the Yeager family is ample evidence of her hideous, amoral nature. Continuing to wail and howl and play the martyr while blaming people ***whose baby she caused the death of*** just piles it on. Get off the cross, Christy, we need the wood.

    I deconstructed that marvel of gaslighting and manipulation she sent to the parents on my own blog and it still haunts me. Haunts *me* – a completely uninvolved observer who at the time didn’t even know the mother’s name, who was just reading what Christy wrote.

    If justice was ever served, Christy Collins would feel every moment of the anguish that everyone she’s harmed. At once. I’m picturing the climax of the movie The Crow. That’s not me being flip or snarky – I legitimately wish she could be forced to *actually* *feel* *the* *anguish* she has caused.

    • namaste
      November 30, 2018 at 3:48 pm #

      Sadly, even if she did she’s probably too narcissistic to give a shit.

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