Scientists find maternity clothes cause pregnancy

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Startling finding announced in prestigious journal
by Gull E. Bull

Scientists have made an astonishing discovery about the cause of pregnancy. According to the study, published in the widely read journal JCS (Journal of Crap Science), researchers have discovered a remarkable and powerful association between maternity clothes and pregnancy raising the possibility that maternity clothes cause pregnancy. Lead author Publish R. Parrish explains that this remarkable association was found in a variety of different investigations.

1. Nearly all women wearing maternity clothes are pregnant (correlation coefficient 0.95) indicating a near perfect relationship between maternity clothes and pregnancy.

2. There is a startling association between the number of stores selling maternity clothes and the overall fertility rate (p<0.01). 3. The odds ratio for pregnancy for a woman wearing maternity clothes as opposed to non-maternity clothes, is very high (RR 35.7). For non-pregnant women, the number wearing maternity clothes drops off in a linear fashion from the day after delivery to approximately 6 weeks postpartum. According to Dr. Parrish: "The findings in this study are even stronger than the new study touting an association between induction and autism. We believe that our study deserves far more attention because the association is much clearer and even more robust." Asked if it were possible that the investigators had misinterpreted their findings, confusing the fact that pregnancy causes women to wear maternity clothes and not the other way around, Dr. Parrish acknowledged the need for further research. He admitted that correlation is not causation but pointed out that if the mainstream media could make such a fuss about crap research showing an association between induction and autism, his work should be able to get even more attention. As Dr. Parrish noted: "We aren't really concerned with what is true, but rather what can be published and publicized. The more sensational the results, the better. Why wait to reproduce results when you can submit crap to any journal, get it published and get it publicized in the newspapers? It's not like anyone is really checking the accuracy of our findings or the plausibility of our conclusions, right?" Indeed, Dr. Parrish admits that he has no intention of further research in this area. He is eager to move on to his next project: C-sections for macrosomia cause babies to grow larger.

  • Porda

    I don’t understand the logic behind such an article. Maternity wears causes pregnancy. Is it so?

  • Rogers

    The logic behind wearing maternity clothes and becoming pregnant seems
    unpractical. According to me, maternity clothes are worn by those who
    are pregnant. Based only on the stats,can we conclude that maternity
    clothes is the cause of pregnancy? I guess NO. What do you say ?

  • Women wear pregnancy clothes because they are pregnant and not the other way around. Personally, i don’t think wearing maternity clothes can make a woman pregnant. Even some pregnant women don’t really wear basic maternity clothes. Pregnant women these days tend to be more stylish and adventurous when it comes to wearing clothes for pregnancy and don’t really use traditional maternity clothings.

    NineAndAHalfMonths.com

  • amazonmom

    The study being parodied came up in our unit staff meeting today. The NICU/OB medical director mentioned it in passing. I pointed out the massive weaknesses in the study and the unit consensus is that the study is worthless bunk.

    • prolifefeminist

      That’s awesome that you were able to point out the study’s flaws like that!

      BTW, I want to be you someday! ๐Ÿ™‚ I’m restarting my prereq’s for nursing school in two weeks, after a ten year hiatus. NICU or OB nursing is exactly where I want to be – I just hope I can find a spot!

      • amazonmom

        I was you back in 1998. I graduated from the Univ of MD second degree BSN program in 2001. Started out in NICU and never looked back. Best job in the world.

  • Mominoma

    So far, pretty much every freaking study they’ve done on this subject did NOT apply to us. I was 28, hubby 29 when our son was conceived/born. He was not my first child. I was at a very healthy weight for my height (105lbs at 5’2) and did not develop GD. He was not born early (well, two days, but not premature) nor was he late. I was not induced. My labor was roughly 12 hours, the last four of which were pretty quick and easy. I had only stadol for his birth, no epidural. My husband is not on the spectrum (though he’s got a very high IQ) and no one in my family is. (or so I thought, more below) None of my other children have autism, though there is some speech-language issues they’ve had (oldest it’s resolved through therapy at school by age nine) and one had ADD. He wasn’t vaccinated until we already knew he was *somewhere* on the spectrum, just not diagnosed. I honestly don’t know why he has autism, though I do believe it’s genetic. I just found out from my first cousin that she has a pre-mutation of some kind for Fragile X, and her 10 month old son is likely on the spectrum, they tell her. No one in the family has Fragile X, AFAIK, however.

    I am so sick of these studies at this point. People crawl out of the woodwork when they post them, asking all kinds of personal questions, blah blah blah. They won’t accept “I don’t know why yet, and neither does science. And at this point, I don’t care. But if you would stop assuming it’s my *fault* somehow, that would be GREAT.” Especially since assuming that only serves to make themselves feel better about their choices and allows them to believe that Just World Fallacy that bad/hard/terrible things only happen to people who deserve it somehow.

  • Antigonos CNM

    Check out this link [apologies if already posted by someone else]:

    http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/autism-and-induced-labor/

  • RosaInBerlin

    OT. I don’t know if anyone has brought this up before, but the Irish High Court is due to rule on a homebirth case on Friday. Details here:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/home-or-hospital-the-politics-of-birth-1.1492055

    • Dr Kitty

      Ah, reading that story I can tell you that demographics and geography play a HUGE part in the varying hospital statistics.

      Kilkenny and Mount Carmel hospitals, for example will have a higher proportion of older mothers, higher socio-economic groups, IVF pregnancies and private patients requesting ERCS or CSDMR.

      South Tipperary is a HUGE geographic area with many parts of the county being more than an hour by road (and bad, mountainous rural Irish roads at that) from hospital. Induction may be more appealing than that.

      Given that Ireland’s birth injury pay outs are HUGE and covered by the HSE, I think that the HSE will be able to defend their right not to indemnify midwives who do not stick to agreed risk criteria.

      This suit is NOT about the right to deliver at home, it is about the HSE’s right to determine the level of risk at which they will no longer indemnify a midwife they employ. I think HBAC (especially in rural Ireland) is an ideal test case.

      Remember the mother in this case would be attended free by the community midwife, with a right to sue the HSE for birth injuries up to the child’s 21st birthday. With a foreseeable risk of rupture of 0.5%, and the OR almost certainly more than 30 minutes away for the vast majority of Irish women, I can’t see HBAC as a safe, supportable option.

      Boy, is that article one sided.

    • Captain Obvious

      If I can have a chance to win a lottery at 1/200 odds, I would play every week. But if you have a similar risk of uterine rupture of 1/200, these parents are willinging to accept the risk for their unborn child. Chances of survival are better if in a hospital with 24/7 staffing with continuous monitoring. But again these parents decide to increase the risk to their unborn child by attempting a Homebirth VBAC without continuous monitoring and no immediate way for delivery if rupture occurs. Take a similar risk situation with a 2 year old child, and parents could possibly get DCFS involved for child endangerment.

      • Dr Kitty

        You get it, I get it, but the “I’m fit and I do yoga and so nothing bad will happen” lady who is taking the case does not get it.

        The HSE definitely gets it, and can use the RCOG guidance on HB in the UK (which has a better transport infrastructure and a less rural population than Ireland) to support the current position.

  • ihateslugs

    Interestingly, there is increasing data to suggest that the origins of autism may very well happen early in development, perhaps even in the embryonal period. That said, I don’t think that we can rule out the possibility that infants who will later be diagnosed with an ASD are already behaving differently in the womb. For this “researcher” to conclude that it is the other way around shows he is completely ignorant of the emerging research on the subject.

    Also, with regards to the question of head size and autism, I do recall research about a group of autistic boys who were found to have something like two-thirds more neurons in the prefrontal cortex area of their brain, (the CEO of the brain, responsible for so muchfunction). However, they did not have corresponding increases to that degree in brain weight or actual size. So, I don’t know that we can chalk up macrocephaly from autism as a reason for more inductions, though it is an interesting thought. And, as already pointed out, macrocephaly can be associated with other genetic and developmental disorders, in which children can also have the comorbidity of autism.

    • Antigonos CNM

      There are times when I want to shout “Define your terms!” because, as with a number of other “conditions”, the definition of autism is almost constantly being widened. And if a child doesn’t have “classical” autism, he or she is now “on the spectrum”. This is how the alarmists manage to assert that the incidence is always increasing — and then look for anything that might be “causing” it.

      I don’t deny autism exists, any more than dyslexia or attention deficit disorder do. But [and I have one child who is moderately severely dyslexic according to the classical definition, and another who is hyperactive enough that it affected his school behavior] I think today’s children are being overdiagnosed. No longer does a kid have ants in his pants, he’s got ADHD. No longer is a child shy around other kids, have problems making friends, he has a personality disorder. And once diagnosed, then there has got to be both a “cause” and a “treatment”. More zinc in the diet, no sugar, etc. Eccentricity is now an illness, along with too much energy. My son’s childhood hyperactivity has translated, as an adult, into considerable commercial success — at age 32 he and his two partners own two businesses and a restaurant [and look at a number of entrepreneurs who were termed stupid or lazy in school].

      • LibrarianSarah

        I’m sorry but you last paragraph sounds like the psychiatric equivalent of “I had a homebirth and everything turned out beautifully.” I might be oversensitive about this issue because I am just old enough and “special” enough to have buried a number of friends who’s parents had the “I don’t want my special snowflake to be labeled” approach to these things. I’ve heard all the excuses “he’s just shy/has ants in his pants/is going through a phase/is misunderstood/is taking his own time and I’ve seen what effects it has on kids.

        They are bullied, they spend a lot of time crying over school work, they self-medicate with drugs, and they feel totally alone. I have said time and time again that getting an accurate diagnoses was the best thing that ever happened to me. It gave me an explanation of why I was the way I was and more importantly it showed me that their were others like me and that I was not all alone. I don’t know how to communicate how much it sucks to feel that you are completely alone in the world. That no one else thinks like you, feels like you, and sees the world the way you do. I spent way too much of my life feeling like I was an alien sent from another planet and it is the worse feeling in the world.

        Assuming your kids got diagnoses as children, that means they probably got extra help in school, therapy, medication and all the benefits that come with having the diagnoses. Those things make a substantial difference in kids lives. But acting like these disorders are mere eccentricities could keep other parents from getting these kids diagnosed and I’ve seen the consequences of that and it’s tragic. In my experience, you need to know that you have ADHD, ASD, Dyslexia etc in order to best know how to manage it and tell others what you need to do your best and why.

        A lot of successful entrepreneurs were termed stupid and lazy in school but so were a lot of drug addicts, criminals and suicide victims. Having ADHD, ASD, Dyslexia, etc does not mean they can’t be successful but it doesn’t mean they go away on their own. Sometimes, with very mild cases, a student will learn to adapt without any extra help but more often than not they need extra help whether from special education, therapy or medication.

        TLDR: Like the wu tang clan, these disorders ain’t nothing to fuck with.

        • Antigonos CNM

          Yes, my children got help, and yes, I think these conditions do exist, but I also, watching the other children in the special classes my children were in, felt that some of the diagnoses were flimsy at best.

          I was a child that never fit in; was very solitary. Today I’d have a diagnosis of some personality disorder when it really was a lot simpler: the only child of elderly parents who both worked until late, reading spontaneously by age three, with a mild strabismus that made playing ball games [at an age when that was important for acceptance] an ordeal — I would much rather bury myself in a book than interact with my peers. Today I’d have been on some kind of medication, probably. But then, today, even Ferdinand the bull would be on medication.

          Here in Israel it is noted that 2x as many boys as girls are diagnosed with learning disabilities, and a proportionately higher number from a particular ethnic background — an ethnic group which was regarded as “primitive” only two generations ago and still is lower income. There’s been quite a lot written about whether these children are really learning disabled or whether they are reacting to their social situation, which is often dysfunctional.

  • prolifefeminist

    Holy crap. All this time I thought it was something in the water that kept on getting me pregnant. So are you telling me that I’ve been drinking booze instead of water all this time for nothing!? Do you know how much money this has cost me? My firstborn’s college fund…gone…what a [hiccup] waste!

    Well, thanks for finally setting me straight. I’m sure my neighbors will [hiccup] appreciate it.

  • Ducky

    haha this is an inspired example… my twin brother has autism and we were born by c-section, it’s pretty clear the c-section caused the autism, isn’t it? the autism couldn’t possibly be related to the underlying health issues that put him into distress and motivated a doctor to deliver us at 32 weeks…

  • GiddyUpGo123

    Hey, maybe that’s what happened! I wore my maternity jeans for months after I had my babies ’cause they were so damned comfortable, and I ended up with four babies! If only I’d known … LOL

  • guest

    While the satire in this amused me, I would love to read more of your thoughts, Dr Amy, on exactly how this is “crap research.” One of the reasons I have loved your blog for four years is that you take the time to explain how some studies (like some of the ones by homebirth advocates) pick and choose their data to obtain a desired result. It’s fascinating to see how misleading things can be, and to read about which studies are more reliable and which aren’t. Sadly, science journalism seems to be dead and most news sources are reporting on this study with breathless sensationalism. Personally, I lack enough understanding of medicine or statistics or methodology to know if this study is a good one or a bad one, so I’d love to hear thoughts from Dr Amy or the other doctors/researchers who participate in the discussions here.

    • guest

      And just to clarify my comment – I mean I’d love to hear thoughts on the autism/induction study being parodied. Not the obviously made up maternity clothes thing. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Karen in SC

        You’re in luck. Read this blog entry:

        http://www.redwineandapplesauce.com/

        • Lisa from NY

          It says smoking may be a factor for autism…

        • guest

          Thank you! That’s a great read, and I’m bookmarking it to share when my many crunchy friends start going on about this study!

        • prolifefeminist

          Thank you!

  • I don’t have a creative name

    Thank God I sold or gave away all of my maternity clothes. Now the hubs and I don’t have to use protection, since thanks to this study, I know there will be no “oops” without those clothes anywhere near me.

  • Zornorph

    What about cross-dressers with a pregnant fetish? How come maternity clothes don’t make them pregnant?

    • wookie130

      Do you have any research that proves that it DOESN’T?

  • That’s interesting. I always had a hunch this might be the case. I wore some maternity clothes around the house that my sister gave to me after her pregnancy and a month later, my husband and I found out we were pregnant. Thank you for posting this. It makes me feel better knowing my hunch has now been scientifically proven.

    (this comment is satire)

  • I just read about the autism/induction study and then went over to your site to see whether you wrote something about it. Of course you did, and after I recovered from laughing at the title, I read the whole article and wasn’t dissapointed! Thank you, just what I needed!

  • rh1985

    While I know this is a parody, I wish I could wear maternity clothes all the time. Maternity jeans are so much more comfortable and I’m actually a smaller size in maternity jeans than regular jeans.

  • Prairie

    Thank you for this! As a mom to a boy with autism who was born after an induction, I started to panic last night that people would start blaming me for my son’s disability. I cried real tears and wished out loud that I had gotten a c-section. However, after doing some more reading I see that this study makes no sense. It is just another risk relationship that explains absolutely nothing.

    After sleeping on it, I also decided that even if there WAS a clear cause/effect relationship, I would still not have waited for natural labor to start. I love my son, autism and all, and I would much rather risk autism than stillbirth from going too long. He was induced at 41 weeks for having low fluid.

  • ratiomom

    I thought there is an established link between autism and larger head circumference? That would be a pretty good reason for autistic babies needing more augmentation during labor.

    • Lisa from NY

      No.

      There are studies relating autism and:

      1. Older mothers
      2. Older fathers
      3. Genetics
      4. IVF + ICSI (due to advanced maternal and paternal age)

      Older mothers have weaker uteruses, so that’s why there’s a link between autism and augmentation of labor.

      As a side point, studies show that 10% of babies born with IVF + ISCI have congenital birth defects, but you still see lots of people trying these fertility treatments anyway.

      • Lisa from NY

        By the way, I have one friend who did IVF + ICSI and her baby died due to multiple birth defects. (She knew from the ultrasound that it would not survive, but did not abort it.) But she did not blog about her experiences and tell people not to pursue fertility treatments.

        She also did a second round and had a healthy baby.

        • Guestll

          I did three rounds of IVF + ICSI. One pregnancy from each cycle for a total of three. Two miscarriages, genetic defects. One 46XX eating cookies on the floor.
          Kind of wondering what your point is here? The trisomies my fetuses had were undoubtedly due to my age, not the process by which they were conceived. Does your friend know that IVF + ICSI caused her baby’s birth defects? Or did she have other preexisting factors that could have been responsible?

          • Lisa from NY

            I don’t know.

            I do know of studies that correlate ICSI with congenital birth defects, but your explanations have thrown me off.

            I am truly sorry for your two miscarriages. It must be very painful to have gone through that torture and not have a live baby at the end of those cycles.

          • Guestll

            Thank you for your kind words.

          • Jennifer2

            The former genetics major in me loves your description of your daughter and her snack.

      • Guestll

        It’s not clear whether the increased rate of abnormalities is due to the process of ICSI, or due to the fact that males with very damaged sperm are more likely to pass on genetic defects.
        ICSI is not just used for men with sperm issues, it’s also routinely used if you’re AMA and undergoing IVF. My husband has excellent sperm/semen parameters (trust me, we’ve been through every test and assay — he was not the problem) and we still used ICSI, because it increased our chances of successful fertilization.

        IVF itself has not been linked to an increase in autism.
        Do you have a citation for “older mothers have weaker uteruses/autism/augmentation of labour” ?

        • Tim

          Curious, do they actually sort/check the sperm for that kind of genetic damage when they do ICSI? Just wondering if it’s a byproduct of “certain percentage of sperm are probably not good, would normally not be the ones that made it to the egg during natural fertilization”

          • Guestll

            I’m not an andrologist, but the short answer is yes and no. ๐Ÿ™‚
            There are assays (usually the Comet assay) which can check for DNA fragmentation however, they aren’t commonly used.
            There are tests to check the chromosomal makeup of the embryo during the IVF process (PGD is one, PGS is another, CCS is the gold standard with respect to comprehensive genetic testing) but not every RE can do them and they come with an added cost. They’re also not recommended for every couple/patient.

          • rh1985

            my clinic allows anyone to do PGD if they wish, but it’s $4000

          • KarenJJ

            I was heading down the path of PGD, but fell pregnant while on a trial of medication to control my underlying condition (the entire reason I was going through PGD and IVF).. For a test of one specific and known genetic mutation, it was going to take the IVF clinic up to 12 weeks to develop a test. The test has to be done on the embryos prior to transfer, so it has to be fast as you have up to 5 days (my clinic transferred at the blastocyst stage). They remove a cell or two to do the test and therefore the embryo has to be developed enough to remove these cells, but not so developed that it can no longer be transferred.

            To check for other genetic mutations in the embryo that could cause defects, well I’m not a geneticist, but I think it would be time consuming and difficult to achieve in the time frame.

          • rh1985

            as far as I know, the only thing they can test for on demand (no preparation, and able to do a fresh transfer as the test can be done overnight) is aneuploidy (normal or abnormal number of chromosomes) which also reveals the gender since they check the sex chromosomes.

        • rh1985

          I did elective IVF (using a sperm donor, wanted embryos to save for when I’m older and might want more kids, didn’t want the random risk of multiples from IUI) and my RE had ICSI done. I know the sperm sample looked good but that’s about it.

        • Lisa from NY

          No.

          I did find this:

          http://www.nih.gov/news/health/apr2012/nichd-02.htm

          Women have longer labors nowadays, but BMI is the primary culprit, along with age.

          Since advanced maternal age is linked to increase in autism, and since these women are more likely to have pitocin, some people may erroneously conclude that pitocin causes autism.

      • Captain Obvious

        Wasn’t the association…
        1, older mothers (parents)
        2, FTM
        3, diabetes
        … All of which are likely to have a higher rate of IOL?

      • Prairie

        Last summer I enrolled my son with autism in a study where they took head measurements and blood to test for genetic mutations, and did a thorough, full day developmental evaluation. The doctor told me if he had a larger than normal head, he would also be offered am MRI. He didn’t, and his genetic tests also came back normal. But I think they said the larger head size is an indicator for some kind of genetic mutation that is linked to a subset of autism.

    • Wren

      The link seems to be iffy, from a quick google last night. Interestingly to me, my nephew who is on the spectrum was an induced delivery, has always had a big head and was the result of ICSI. His mother was 26 and his father was in his early 30s, so I don’t think age played a role.

  • violinwidow

    Truly, truly AWESOME!!

  • amazonmom

    So that’s why my Mirena failed! I wore a pregnancy shirt because my clothes were in the laundry!

    • nomorequestionscatherine

      I predict new fertility treatment coming out now. No need to see a RE, do blood tests, sperm analysis, HSG, pelvic ultrasounds, IVF, IUI, surrogacy, adoption … just put on some full panel pants and side-ruched shirts. bam, baby!

  • Guest09

    The “study” on the autism link yesterday was really frustrating. I saw about three different doulas I know post links on it, when even the articles make it clear that there is really very little to go on based on what was actually presented. It made me wonder if they even read the articles!

    Those issues aside, my heart goes out to families who have autistic children and most constantly be frustrated by all of these ridiculous studies claiming to have answers released. It makes me angry just to see how many NCB women use these articles to validate their own choices with no scientific understanding of what is even being discussed. Using children who have autism to validate your vaccination and birth choices is beyond disgusting to me.

  • Leica

    So THAT’S why I got pregnant when my first kiddo was only 9 months! I was still wearing maternity clothes! Baby #2 is 7 months…I haven’t really been out of maternity clothes in 2 years :-O

  • Tim

    Okay seriously?

    “The risk to females was not significantly elevated when labor was both induced and augmented, or induced alone. The likelihood of autism went up with augmentation alone, 21%.”
    That alone says volumes about the ridiculous and tenuous nature of this “relationship”. You might as well argue that receiving a boppy cover at your baby shower increases the risk of autism.

    • Tim

      Don’t forget ladies, if you want to protect your baby
      A) Pitocin in the middle of labor causes autism
      B) Pitocin or Cytotec before labor, cancels out the horrific autism creating effect of Pitocin in the middle of labor somehow.
      C) ???
      D) Publish your findings

    • AllieFoyle

      If you want to know whether or not induction or augmentation has an effect, which I presume was the point of the study, why not look at fetuses that have the same indications for induction and then compare based on management? Otherwise it reads a little bit like “Correlation? Causality? Who cares as long as I can publish?”

    • Hannah
  • Older Mom

    You know, you could open up a fertility clinic and make a killing with these insights.

  • Older Mom

    Dr. Amy, you’re clearly not familiar with the phenomenon of post-partum ladies wearing their maternity duds for many months after baby is born. Sometimes, they are the only things that fit. And sometimes those maternity pants are more comfortable for those with c-section scars.

    • R T

      Lol, 9 months pp over here and still wearing a few of them! I went from 120lbs to 195lbs during pregnancy and am around 152lbs now. I’m not fitting into my old clothes anytime soon and not wanting to spend a fortune on new clothes. The maternity jeans were really comfy on my csection scar!

      • KarenJJ

        Same.. Some of my big maternity t-shirts are also favourite pyjama tops now… Probably should chuck them.. Don’t want to risk a contraception failure…

    • Me Too

      Maternity Tops are much easier to nurse in. The extra fabric makes easier to nurse without a cover.

  • Captain Obvious

    Does this have anything todo with the CNN report last night about a study associating induction of labor and autism? Even worse would be if the woman got a few ultrasounds before the induction.

    http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2013/08/12/autism-linked-to-induced-or-augmented-labor-study-says/?hpt=he_c2

  • Antigonos CNM

    Does that mean that, even though I’m 67, since I am avoirdupois-challenged, I’m in danger of becoming pregnant again, since I often buy maternity clothes [plus size shops in Israel don’t have very nice things most of the time]? Goodness gracious me.

    • Awesomemom

      I still wear some of my maternity shirts because they are long and a lot of the shirts I get at other stores shrink up and get short. I don’t think the world needs to see my belly while I am trying to carry a squirming toddler. I guess I had better keep some pregnancy tests handy or maybe learn to sew my own shirts.

  • Jessica Atchison

    Oh this is good. When I saw that clip on the news last night my jaw hit the floor. I could not believe they had found another bugaboo to pin autism on.

  • AllieFoyle

    >>>Indeed, Dr. Parrish admits that he has no intention of further research in this area. He is eager to move on to his next project: C-sections for macrosomia cause babies to grow larger.

    Ha! But you know it’s just a matter of time before you see a study like this in a midwifery journal.

    • Jennifer2

      But they probably do…indirectly. You have a macrosomic baby. Either you deliver it by c-section and it lives, or you don’t, it gets stuck due to shoulder dystocia and either dies or suffers significant injury. C-section allows baby to live, live baby grows up, reproduces, passes on genes that contribute to large size. Vaginal delivery causes death or injury, dead baby cannot reproduce, injured baby faces reduced chances of reproduction, genes contributing to large size not passed on.

      Of course a few nutjobs would say it’s better for those babies to die, but most people would consider a c-section to be a very good thing in those cases.

      • Lisa from NY

        Who knows? Maybe the NCB nutjob lobby will make C-sections illegal in the U.S.

    • Me Too

      I have to say that after I knew I was going to have a RCS. I no longer cared how big the baby was. I ate to my hearts content and did have a rather large baby. So, there might actually be something there.

  • quadrophenic

    A “friend” of mine may be wearing maternity pants over a year postpartum because she’s too cheap/lazy to buy pants in a new size. Said “friend” may also figure that she’s planning on having another baby soon anyway, so why even bother?

    But since maternity clothes cause pregnancy, my “friend” shouldn’t have any problems conceiving that second baby.

    • Courtney84

      My cousin (3 years post partum with her youngest) informed me she’s been wearing maternity pants to Thanksgiving dinner since her oldest was born, pregnant or not!

    • Ashley Wilson

      I won’t lie, I have this one pair of pregnancy pants that I love. I bought them early in my pregnancy and had only just started to show (I needed a new pair of pants right then and figured buy something I would be wearing for a while). I put those suckers on and told my husband I was never ever taking them off. They are so comfy! The denim is pretty soft. I still wear those anytime I have a shirt on long enough to cover their intended purpose. I regret nothing. It doesn’t matter that I don’t plan on having another kid. I will continue to wear these until they are threadbare.

      • rh1985

        pregnancy jeans are so comfy! I have a pair on today at 11 weeks because they are so much more comfortable – the kind with a low rise elastic waist/small panel. And I can wear a smaller size even! I think it’s because when non pregnant any weight I gain goes straight to the stomach and non-pregnancy jeans are not forgiving in that area, so the legs always end up slightly baggy. Some company needs to make elastic waist jeans for non-pregnant women… I’d buy so many.

        • KarenJJ

          “Some company needs to make elastic waist jeans for non-pregnant women… I’d buy so many.”

          THIS! It’s awful realising that the elastic waist stuff fits better these days, but I’m at peace with wit now. I was such a tailored-pants person in the past. But jeans these days end up hanging off my hips and sagging down the back and it’s an atrocious look. Especially when I have a toddler on my hip causing them to ride down even lower…

          • rh1985

            I’ve found elastic waist non-pregnancy shorts (khaki/chino/denim ones, not exercise shorts), but the search continues for jeans/pants…

          • Ashley Wilson

            Jeggings, or jean leggings are the closest I can think of, but I personally think you have the have the body of a size 000 model to be able to pull them off. Otherwise you look like you have just gone out in control top pantyhose without your skirt or dress or something on.

  • Tim

    I was kindof hoping this is how your response would read. Thanks for not disappointing!
    I think it’s very important to focus on the next groundbreaking study – a thicker DSM seems to have a direct relationship with the number of diagnosed mental disorders. The APA needs to stop adding pages before it’s too late – everyone is at risk.

    • Dr Kitty

      Oh don’t.
      I had to explain to someone that the fact that one of her identical two year old twins is a bit of a rascal and the other is a quiet, shy little fellow means that her sons are individuals with different personalities. Not that one has ADHD and the other has autism.

      I fully expect “won’t stay on the naughty step” and “likes to listen to the same lullaby every night” to be in the next DSM.

      • Amy M

        Oh man. I get the opposite…people wonder how my identical twins can have different personalities if they are identical.

        • Tim

          Those are the same people who would have paid the 50k$ to have their dog cloned and then been surprised that it came out a puppy who had no idea who they were and pooped on the floor.

      • Tim

        I think that reading “more more more said the baby” 8,000 times is giving me a new yet to be discovered disorder

    • Lisa from NY

      I do wonder how many NCB people have OCD or worse, OCPD.

    • Mishi

      My best friend’s rather crunchy mum made a nearly identical comment about the DSM. Sadly, she was serious. *facepalms*