Sobering thought

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32 Responses to “Sobering thought”

  1. booda
    August 4, 2013 at 1:06 am #

    I believe you, but where did you get that statistic? If I post this everywhere, homebirthers everywhere will demand a source or dismiss it. but they’ll dismiss it anyways. 😉 I am just interested to know where you got the stat.

    • stacey
      August 4, 2013 at 12:17 pm #

      Its right across the bottom of the graphic 🙂

  2. anon
    August 2, 2013 at 12:41 am #

    A serious pet peeve of mine is when people quote the WHO for breast feeding statistics, but then I ask them their stance on VAX and they choose non or delayed when the WHO is VERY firm on vaccinations. If you quote them at me you better damn well have your entire family vaccinated on schedule. Or GTFO

    • rh1985
      August 2, 2013 at 3:53 am #

      They also always leave out the fact that WHO statistics are worldwide and include countries where it is very difficult to get clean water for mixing formula.

      • Older Mom
        August 2, 2013 at 9:36 am #

        I agree with you, rh1985. However, it’s not a good counter-argument to the anti-vaxxers because they use the lack of good nutrition and clean water as a reason why kids in developing countries are more at risk for vaccine-preventable diseases than “first world” kids.

        However, it might be a good idea to start where anon suggests starting, and if they give the argument I just stated in the above paragraph, you can then point out that the lack of access to clean water, formula, and nutritious early toddler food are key reasons WHO is so gung-ho about breastfeeding.

        • anon
          September 23, 2013 at 11:42 am #

          I have a habit of mentioning to them that unless they also vaccinate on schedule I won’t listen to anything they have to say from the WHO. Then I stop listening

    • sleuther
      August 2, 2013 at 9:44 am #

      That’s been a pet peeve of mine for YEARS. If you’re gonna quote the AAP and WHO chapter-and-verse on breastfeeding recommendations, you’d damn well better be following their recommended vaccination schedules. Otherwise you’re a hyprocrite.

  3. Zornorph
    August 1, 2013 at 9:38 pm #

    Not really keen on the graphic. It seems more like a protest against suburban architecture than suggesting a homebirthed baby. Plus, it’s an adult sized coffin.

    • auntbea
      August 1, 2013 at 10:09 pm #

      Perhaps a coffin-shaped birthing pool? A bit harder to photoshop, though.,.

    • realityycheque
      August 1, 2013 at 10:14 pm #

      It’s directly referencing this (ridiculous) picture that’s doing the rounds:

      • Zornorph
        August 1, 2013 at 10:56 pm #

        Wow. That’s really…offensive. If somebody were to post that on Facebook where I could see it, I’d cuss the living $hit out of them.

        • rh1985
          August 1, 2013 at 11:01 pm #

          Agreed, it disgusts me.

          • realityycheque
            August 1, 2013 at 11:51 pm #

            Apparently understanding the difference between a causal and correlational relationship is too hard for these people.

        • auntbea
          August 2, 2013 at 9:45 am #

          I would ask them why, if they are so set on breastfeeding, they are mourning the death of that bottle.

          • Zornorph
            August 2, 2013 at 11:23 am #

            Because a graphic of a giant boob in a coffin would just make everybody giggle. Though I am still mourning the ‘death’ of Angelina Jolie’s breasts. (No, don’t hate me – she was smart to do it.)

          • Jennifer2
            August 3, 2013 at 12:39 am #

            Really, shouldn’t it be a dead baby in a bottle-shaped coffin then? I mean, yeah, a dead baby would be like 1000x more offensive and emotionally difficult for viewers, but the metaphor holds better, and if you want to guilt us dirty bottle feeders into making our boobs work or forgoing our mental health meds or suffering through rape flashbacks or never-ending mastitis or simply not enjoying how we feed our babies, then a picture of a dead baby will be much more effective.

          • Jennifer2
            August 3, 2013 at 12:51 am #

            Oh, and I totally forgot about parents like you who use surrogates and/or (allegedly) lack the necessary equipment for breastfeeding. Or adoptive parents. Foster parents. Grandparents and aunts and uncles who raise grand kids and nieces and nephews. You should all induce lactation. No excuses. Some people can do it, so everyone must do it. Heck, we should all just induce lactation now, even if we have no children and no intention to have a baby just in case our mammary glands might be needed at some point. An army of wet nurses to fight the war on infant mortality, childhood obesity, diabetes, and breast cancer.

          • LynnetteHafkenIBCLC
            August 3, 2013 at 8:46 am #

            Good point, Jennifer. I heard of a grandma who induced lactation to provide a few oz of breastmilk to her adult son who had cancer. Why wait? Prevention is better than cures after the fact.

      • amazonmom
        August 2, 2013 at 1:56 am #

        I hadn’t seen that pic yet. How horrid would it be for my NICU moms who were desperate to breast feed but were never able to produce to see that? How about the moms for whom breastfeeding is contraindicated? Oh that’s right you are supposed to not have kids if you can’t breastfeed them!

        • 'Nother Lawyer
          August 3, 2013 at 2:39 pm #

          Well, NICU moms who can’t breastfeed are already subject to giant posters advocating b’fing in the NICU, as well as not being able to get the super special badges for their kids isolettes. And everyone seems to think THAT is OK.

          • amazonmom
            August 3, 2013 at 3:22 pm #

            It’s hard for me to hear that other NICUs do such a thing. Even Evergreen doesn’t do that and we were the first “baby friendly” in the US. I guess we aren’t as far off the deep end as I thought.

      • yentavegan
        August 2, 2013 at 7:57 am #

        This image is hostile and it will not convince anyone to breastfeed. Shame on whoever is using this propaganda poster. Was this ‘art-work’ funded by special monies allocated for lactation promotion and education?

        • R T
          August 2, 2013 at 9:48 am #

          It won’t convince anyone to breast feed, but it will add to the tremendous guilt mommies who CAN’T breastfeed feel these days. It actually made me tear up a little remembering my sister-in-law sobbing because she couldn’t breastfeed. She had been convinced her son would be dumber, sicker and fatter because her breast had failed him. Now some poor woman out there thinks her baby is going to die before his first birthday because she doesn’t produce enough breast milk. This really pisses me off!

          • Zornorph
            August 3, 2013 at 2:22 am #

            Honestly, I shouldn’t feel this way but I want to find the lunatic who came up with this and actually beat them up.

        • stacey
          August 4, 2013 at 12:20 pm #

          No, I think its the asshole “alpha” parent.”

      • Older Mom
        August 2, 2013 at 9:38 am #

        That is one of the most offensive things I’ve ever seen. It might be more appropriate to stick a boob in there, since my son would be dead if I insisted on exclusively breastfeeding.

        (Serious supply issues caused by son’s serious feeding issues early in life. Regulars on this blog have probably read a lot about my story posted under “SkepticalGuest” but a technical snafu has lead to me posting with the “Older Mom” handle and I have no idea how to change.)

      • LynnetteHafkenIBCLC
        August 2, 2013 at 10:24 am #

        What in the world is their source for their statistic??? That makes no sense at all.

        • Certified Hamster Midwife
          August 2, 2013 at 11:26 pm #

          The statistic makes perfect sense when you realize that eating formula doesn’t cause death. Poorer moms are less likely to breastfeed, and they probably had worse or no prenatal care, then all of the problems that go along with poverty after bringing the baby home.

          • Jennifer2
            August 3, 2013 at 12:27 am #

            Also babies with significant disabilities are more likely to be formula fed, whether because they can’t nurse efficiently (heart defects, cleft lip/palate), need higher calorie nutrition than breast milk, have allergies or milk protein intolerances that require specialized formula, or need to be tube fed. So babies that are more likely to die in the first year of life are also more likely to be formula fed.

          • prolifefeminist
            August 3, 2013 at 1:52 am #

            That’s a really good point.

          • LynnetteHafkenIBCLC
            August 3, 2013 at 8:44 am #

            I was thinking that could be the case. I’d still love to see their original source, because either there isn’t one, or it is such a gross misrepresentation of the actual facts that it would completely destroy their argument, and highlight the fact that zealots are ok with basically lying. Even if it were true, this kind of information should be given compassionately, not in such a sensationalist, schadenfreude type way.

  4. fiftyfifty1
    August 1, 2013 at 7:02 pm #

    Fix the “in within” part.

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