Some people clearly enjoy mud wrestling with anti-vaxxers. I’m not sure why since it only encourages them and since they don’t have enough basic science knowledge to understand what people are telling them. If you feel you must engage with prolific anti-vax commentors, please do so here. I’m closing several other comment threads because they are about to crash the site.
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Dr. Amy Tuteur is an obstetrician gynecologist. She received her undergraduate degree from Harvard College in 1979 and her medical degree from Boston University School of Medicine in 1984. Dr. Tuteur is a former clinical instructor at Harvard Medical School. She left the practice of medicine to raise her four children. Her book, Push Back: Guilt in the Age of Natural Parenting (HarperCollins) was published in 2016. She can be reached at DrAmy5 at aol dot com... More
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From JGC:
Your evidence that all the data from all the epidemiologic studies performed by all the researchers associated with every public or private public health agency in all the nations that have attempted to discover any evidence of a causal association between vaccines and autism spectrum disorders has been ‘massaged’ etc., rendering the study conclusions invalid would be what exactly?
Be specific.
I mean you do actually have some, right?
Your argument does take some form other than “That evidence doesn’t count because CONSPIRACY THEORY!?”
I’ve been asking for years if anyone has any evidence that people they say are being paid, are in fact, being paid.
So…..post it here if you do.
Acceptable forms of evidence:
-Paycheques
-Internal instruction documents
-Testable falsifiable definitions that run both ways.
I think it is critical that visitors and lurkers get a sense of how irrational and logic-impaired antivaxers are.
I’ll put this here, as this spot was mend for anti-vax mud-wrestling.
1. I’m no good at researching things, can’t tell apart what is really science and what not.
2. Knowing this I’ve still tried to “do my research”. I’ve asked Dr. Google “Do vaccines cause autism”.
The funny thing was, that I had as many links saying “Yes, it does” than links saying “no it doesn’t”. Reminds me a bit of that Monty Python sketch, … “That’s not an argument”-“yes it is”-“no it isn’t”-“yes it is”-“no it isn’t”…
Than I asked google: What causes autism. And the first link was to an autism center, autism specialists, and they clearly say: we don’t know what causes autism! We are looking in many different directions, it may be genetic, at least in part, but we don’t know!
So, links that say “yes it does”, seem all to be from anti-vax-groups, where as people working on autism research don’t say that at all. That’s funny, isn’t it.
I also found a link to a story from a mother whose daughter developed autism without having been vaccinated.
So, I think I will continue to trust my pediatrician and continue to vaccinate my kids.
My little one does not develop speech as the two big ones did. He is some funny kind of late talker. It could be the vaccines, it could be the bottles of formula he had in the first 3 days of his live, while I was fighting death due to blood loss, it could also be genetic, as his granny didn’t talk until she was two either.
I just want to thank the people who responded to my rant about our home
health agency “firing” us because we demanded vaccinated caregivers. In really appreciated the support, but even more than that it helped to get some concrete suggestions for how to respond. I’ve made complaints to the state licensing board, the health department, our insurance company and osha. We haven’t found a good fit for a caregiver yet, but I’m sure we will.
Wish we have anti-virus software against anti-vaxxers….
https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M84500b846574021db424a2f98d7980b3H0&pid=15.1
Huzzah! Somewhere to use up all the troll food I have lying around.
Speaking of mud…..some new special fancy probiotic mud company called “Good Dirt” or “Mother Dirt” or something like that is now sponsoring my local NPR affiliate. *headdesk*
Oh look, an echo chamber…..
A thread set up specifically for you to have a chance to disagree with the blog’s owner is an “echo chamber”? How post-factual of you.
But are we wrestling in free range organic paleo mud or evil genetically modified autistic mud made by Monsanto?
It depends upon whether or not the mud was vaccinated.
It’s just…it’s just so fun. It’s an easy win. They’re so hopelessly deluded.
One name, Barzini.
New verb – “To Barzini.” To ask for facts and then dismiss them when they’re provided.
‘Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.’ ~ George Carlin
Sorry, Dr. Amy.
No problem. I’m just trying to contain the crazy.
There’s something from Shakespeare about ‘as well bid the leviathan come ashore’ that comes to mind, here.